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Old 03-28-2012
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Default Amsoil ATF change interval

My Amsoil automatic transmission fluid is no longer pink/red.
It is red/burgundy. Does this mean I need to change it out?
Herb?

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28,000 miles on full fluid & filter change out - included torque converter fluid
Deep Dish tranny pan installed
~25% of 28k towing or snowplowing
No continuous running temps over 175 degrees. Most often @168 or less
Spikes to 220 when plowing
Once to 240
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No not necessary, If you did a full change of mostly AMSOIL ATF the (Severe Service) interval is 50,000 miles. 100,000 miles Normal interval. Very hard by looking at a color of a fluid. A analysis is the only way to tell. If you change all the fluid and running a deep trans pan you should be fine. JMO
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I have full faith in Amsoil products and truly believe they are second to none, although the dealer network leaves alot to be desired. I'd say 90% of the dealers are cut and paste from the Amsoil website and really don't have a clue. The other 10% actually do their own research beyond the Amsoil website and Amsoil dealer tech support. IMO Herb falls into the 10% category.

I do the 1yr/25,000 OCI with Amsoil AME and one filter, either the Donaldson ELF7349 or Amsoil EaO80. Analysis is only done when I change the oil and each report has come back the the oil is in great shape and I don't run a bypass on my truck. I went 100,000 miles on my last dif fluid using Amsoil Long Life 75W-90, I changed it last May and the same Amsoil went back in. The fluid came out looking great, see pics below. That fluid will stay in for 100,000 miles also.

So on that note, the tranny fluid is different for me. I personally wouldn't run any tranny fluid in the 48RE anymore than 50,000 no matter what, even the Amsoil ATF. The 48RE thrives for it's scheduled filter and fluid changes which is key to longevity.







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Thanks N/D. I'm always honest if asked a question. Glad to be in that 10% .
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I fully agree about the amsoil, just check out my thread in the oil category on OA's. Herb you are the man for information and honesty it is much appreciated.
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I do the 1yr/25,000 OCI with Amsoil AME and one filter.......[/IMG]
NavyDood, what do "OCI"and "AME' stand for? And, I take it the "one filter" remains installed for the entire 25,000?
I also use the same filters you do b/c of marginal oil test results w/ other name brand filters at only 15,000 miles with Amsoil series 3000 5w/30.
However, I now replace the filter and top up at the halfway mark. So I use two filters for 25,000

Thanks to all for the input. I also echo your appreciation of Herb's knowledge, availability and integrity.
I now feel comfortable running the ATF for another 15,000 - 20,000.
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OCI = Oil Change Interval. AME is the 15w-40 Heavy duty diesel Marine Oil product code number.
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I'm doing filter changes @ 15,000km withtop ups for my engine oil, running the 5w-40 and using the amsoil filters.
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NavyDood, what do "OCI"and "AME' stand for? And, I take it the "one filter" remains installed for the entire 25,000?
I also use the same filters you do b/c of marginal oil test results w/ other name brand filters at only 15,000 miles with Amsoil series 3000 5w/30.
However, I now replace the filter and top up at the halfway mark. So I use two filters for 25,000

Thanks to all for the input. I also echo your appreciation of Herb's knowledge, availability and integrity.
I now feel comfortable running the ATF for another 15,000 - 20,000.
Herb covered the acronyms.

Yes, I use the same filter for 25,000 miles. Here are pics from my last oil change using Amsoil AME 15w-40 and the Amsoil EaO80 oil filter. That oil had 14months/27,600 miles on it. Remember though, I have an 04 with the 305/555 engine. They are much easier on oil than the 04.5 and newer engines.





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Do you pull the pleated filter element off the housing and inspect it every change?
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