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Old 11-24-2008
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Default Stealing food out of the mouths of the hungry

The freakin' media is a bunch of morons - yeah, I know - big news flash, right? Right. Anyway, it's not rocket science - ok, maybe close to rocket fuel science? not hardly.

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Typical! We can destroy our farm lands with housing developments, Close our farms because of so called pollutants, but we can't use some of the products from that farm land that we should have an abundance of for fuel. Go figure?
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I don't think we should be using food supplies to make fuel especially when there are other sources to get the fuel from that are just as abundant and can produce better fuels.....having said that i agree with Cougar on that fact we need to stop destroying farm land for housing developments.....but that land id worth more to a developer and the smaller family farms are going away a the bigger corperate type farms are the only ones surviving.
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yeah, I agree with the food supplies argument - to a point - how much reserve corn, wheat, etc to we put up every year? How many farmers are paid for NOT growing crops every year? How many acres of CRP lay fallow every year?

But my biggest issue is that they pretty much gloss over the waste vegetable oil source for biofuel ...
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I know what you mean....they are all for recycling....well that's what making bio fro waste veggie oil is....you'd think the green weeines would be all for it.
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Take a good look at a renewable resource. It is called hemp. Not the stuff one would roll into pinners or make rope from, but the real stuff they grow for oil. It is amazing stuff, even the stalks can be used for long fiber boards.
It takes no nutrients from the soil and it is a hardy plant, but again because of government intervention only so much in this country can be grown.
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I agree there...Hemp is an amazing plant to make useful things from and we should take advantage of it.
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Default Re: Stealing food out of the mouths of the hungry

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: J_R_R</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Take a good look at a renewable resource. It is called hemp. Not the stuff one would roll into pinners or make rope from, but the real stuff they grow for oil. It is amazing stuff, even the stalks can be used for long fiber boards.
It takes no nutrients from the soil and it is a hardy plant, but again because of government intervention only so much in this country can be grown. </div></div>

Agreed completely [img]/forum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/USFlag.gif[/img]
The hemp plant helped to build this country.
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as cool as hemp is im kinda leaning towards the algea idea for bio fuels. i mean this stuff sounds crazy. its possible to get over a 50% yield the stuff and because they dont have to grow it in flat fields it take sa fraction of the land we use for farming now. and to top it all off it some of the best palces to grow it r we people and animals like to live the least and u can feed it with farm runn off and sewage waste. how do you beat that?
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I agree it is the best option out there.....I read in the TDR that there is finally gonna be a ASTM regulation for B-20 so maybe in a few years we'll have specs for B-100 and these algea factories will be up and running and processing fuel.
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